Jul 26 • 1HR 53M

The Veneer of Legitimacy (w/ Kreesa Lancaster)

A legal (and moral) outlook on a world without Roe.

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Everything is broken. Adaam James Levin-Areddy and Vanessa M. Quirk, two jaded journos, interview people far wiser than themselves and ask: "now what?"
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The yin to David French’s yang, lawyer and pro-choice activist Kreesa Lancaster gives us her perspective on how and why the Supreme Court came to the Dobbs v. Jackson ruling. Along the way, Kreesa breaks down the legalese, explaining such terms as substantive due process, stare decisis, and strict constructionism / originalism, for good measure. But we also discuss why all the legal wonkery can be a distraction from what’s really at play here — and what Americans need to be paying attention to. 

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On the agenda:

-Why we’re having this conversation now [0:00-4:07}

-On leaks and legal disclaimers [4:08-7:09]

-Substantive due process. What the fuck? [7:10-11:03]

-Privacy: an unenumerated right [11:04-14:28] 

-Understanding originalism / strict constructionism [14:29-25:24]

-Stare decisis and Roe’s impact [25:25-30:43] 

-Silver (or grayish?) linings [30:44-36:06] 

-Dissecting Dobbs v. Jackson [36:07-38:57] 

-The Supreme Court's five-prong test [38:58-50:29] 

-The veneer of legitimacy [50:30-1:01:43] 

-In Alito's shoes [1:01:44-1:09:50] 

-Deciding to come on the podcast [1:09:51-1:13:26]

-What Dobbs means in practice [1:13:27-1:25:46]

-Creating a culture of choice [1:25:47-1:41:35] 

-Other rulings in peril [1:41:36-1:50:02]

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